On the way out I loved your urban legend of the Pope being jealous of how the GB have been able to sweep the pedophiles under the rug. That is a story I would have way more of a chance of believing.
LITS
so said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.
he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.
the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.
On the way out I loved your urban legend of the Pope being jealous of how the GB have been able to sweep the pedophiles under the rug. That is a story I would have way more of a chance of believing.
LITS
this weekend nearly everyone i have ever known or that i am related to is sitting in a convention.
i miss none of it!!!!.
i do not miss:.
I so agree, have a very nice and stressless afternoon with your family.
LITS
so said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.
he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.
the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.
So said the CO last night.
Apparently a JW was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from Pixar and when the man from Pixar heard that he was a JW the Pixar man just gushed over what great work that the Watchtower has done in producing the Caleb video's. He siad he only wished Pixar could do such great work. The CO said we are able to do it because we have free labor and Jehovah behind us.
My husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the CO said in his talk.
The CO also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period. Also some have been saying that some of the changes were to save money and that is not the case in the least.
It just made me sick to listen to and I know there are those of you who are going to put me down for listening to the meeting so bring it on and slam me for it. I listened and that is that. I am kind of stuck in the middle with my husband still believing and I want to know what is happening because it still affects me.
OK so now that, that is said, it just made me sick and my head hurts to know that everyone at the meeting was commenting saying how great the changes were and how happy they are for Jehovah speading up the work. The JW's who are in do not seem to be able to see the Wizard behind the curtain. And these are younger ones in the late 20's and 30's.
I am just speachless and I just do not get how anyone can fall for all of this.
LITS
Also for those who do not know Pixar is the one who made such movies as Toy story 1 and 2, Finding Nemo, Mosters Inc, UP, Cars, etc but they are jealous of the Cabeb video. Yeh right!
i'm at starbucks .
just outside in the courtyard.. i'm trembling.
my hands are shaking.. wow!.
Thanks for sharing your story also, I have really enjoyed how you reason so well.
LITS
had you going there for a minute ;).
now you're here... there are several problems with that illustration, as i see it.. ..... 1) god is the one who inflicted the life threatening ailment that requires an operation.
(he supposedly decided what sin would be defined as, then once adam 'sinned', he cursed all of adams descendants to sin, grow old and die.).
dft I loved your post thanks so much for taking the time to write it and thanks billy for the other link.
LITS
so i am at the funeral for the son of an old mentor of mine and my closet truth friends.. .
(i talked about r in a previous post, he was the most formative person in my life in the truth, and those of my family and friends.).
i was pulled aside by r's wife; she tells me that r wants to talk to me.. .
Thank you for your memories. It brought back a lot of feelings for me also. Sometimes thinking of the past and how I felt about the older ones as a young person looking up to them, putting so much trust in them that it makes my heart hurt so much now for what could have been and should have been. All the pain and hurtfulness and yet good time mixed into it all. It's hard for me to make sense of it all now.
I agree that sending a card would be a kind way to go.
LITS
i had a flash back yesterday.
my non jw husband and i went to disneyland and bought my young daughter a set of 7 dwarf toys.
after a few months i felt guilty and threw them away, thinking they were demonized.
I was told by an elder that I had to throw away the song 1999 by Prince. He really tore into me about having that song in my home. Now Prince is suposed to be a JW and still making the same music that I had to throw out. I guess now it's OK to have his CD's?
LITS
what is it like for you when you run into someone from your happy days growing up in the kingdom hall?.
it happened to me recently, and it brought out a flood of memories about r, an old friend and mentor.. it is a service day; as we drive along route 6 in rs gray four door rambler ambassador, we pass a baptist church.
it is a thursday afternoon, sunny and warm, and r and i are on our way to the territory to make calls.
Your right Pistoff in the fact that even through they were so hurtful there was this huge part of me that liked them, because they could be nice, really nice at times. I think for me it was because I believed it so strongly that I sort of worshiped these men for who they were in the "truth". Now all I see is how sad it all was and how they used their power in hurtful ways.
LITS
what is it like for you when you run into someone from your happy days growing up in the kingdom hall?.
it happened to me recently, and it brought out a flood of memories about r, an old friend and mentor.. it is a service day; as we drive along route 6 in rs gray four door rambler ambassador, we pass a baptist church.
it is a thursday afternoon, sunny and warm, and r and i are on our way to the territory to make calls.
It totally reminds me of three elders I knew growing up. When you said that "R brought a lot of people into the "truth" and stumbled as many out" that was these elders. They could be really kind and brutally mean in seconds of each other.
One of these elders berated me to the point that I just wished I was dead because I had taken him on a study of mine, I was only 16 years old and my parents were not strong JW's. I did not know about the head covering thing. This elder just ripped me to pieces because I did not my head covered in front of my study. I know it was stupid for me not to know this very important part of our faith but I did not know that women, young girls had to have their head covered in front of the brothers. I put a paper towel on my head to appease him, but he berated me all the way home, he was in his 60's at the time. I look back now and think how could a grown man do that to a young girl.
Another time I was pulled into the back room alone with two of these men and told I had to stop dating my now husband because I would ruin his spititual life. Till this day I do not know why they did that. I was not marked, I was in good standing, pioneered, etc. It just totally crushed me and even till this day it hurts for some stupid reason even though I do not now belieive it's the "truth" I did than. I totally believed back than it was my whole life and to have these men say that to me was beyond horrible. Even now in the back of my mind I still wonder what is so worng with me that they would do that without telling me why they felt I was so horrible as to ruin someones life. Who does that to a young 20 year old women? And it was a surprise hit when they came up to me in front of another young sister I was talking to and demaned that I go into the back room alone with them, I had not a clue that they were going to do that, or that I was in any kind of trouble. The sister I was talking to kept asking me what I had done wrong. I never told her.
All the things these elders did still hurt 30 years later. They left such a mark on my soul and spirit.
LITS
as the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
Pedophiles